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>> obama. obama! >> you have a question for obama, you got all your answers. >> i have a question for obama and for romney. how are you going to manage the student debt crisis and make college and grad school affordable for all students? >> what's the student loan? >> grad students have lost the ability to have unsubsidized -- thank you -- unsubsidized loan so i'm paying a whole lot more out of pocket -- >> do you know what i paid 3%. question for who? >> question for both candidates, about gun control. after this incident in aurora, we would like to know how we'll have more gun control. >> gabby gifford. >> i have a question for -- >> how are the sox doing? >> not too well. >> one more painful day, i guess. >> exactly. i just have a question for mitt romney about the student loan debt. same issue, what do we do about the rising student loan debt? it's a big, big question. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a questio
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we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes as a reporter and despite how professional i thought it was an how fair i thought i was, i was accused of making george bush look bad and of making clinton look good, which was completely false. clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's
we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and to be professional. and to seek the truth. i employed those attributes...
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>> president obama. >> you have a question for who? >> for mitt romney, are you a robot and, if so, where is your on/off switch so we can switch you off. >> question for who? >> i do not have a question. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college.
>> president obama. >> you have a question for who? >> for mitt romney, are you a robot and, if so, where is your on/off switch so we can switch you off. >> question for who? >> i do not have a question. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria...
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which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care, we've got the jobs act, we've got some actual ideas that he has put on the table, things he has done in the last four years to say, we can see what your philosophy is. we can see what specificity. romney won't even give you that. >> the wall of obfuscation, brick by brick. mark halperin, we haven't talked about the coverage of "time," the debate special and we're not trying to depress anybody here but the thesis here written by one of our friends to the show, michael sherry, he talks about how voters are just increasingly less demanding of the truth, that political fibs we can get away with them and things like details on tax plans doesn't really matter to the
which is what obama did in his health care benefit. i'm just reminding people a lot of what we're hearing you have to take with grain of salt that big picture priorities usually are followed through on. but the details get swept away -- >> also -- >> the one big policy thing that romney has done is walking away from and at least with president obama, i mean we've got obama care, we've got the jobs act, we've got some actual ideas that he has put on the table, things he has done in...
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and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell of a job. like a referee in a boxing match. each candidate had a tough moment or two. here is warren tripped up, i think, when asked to name a republican she could work with. just name a senator or any bunch of them. here is what she said. let's watch. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big issues, substantive issues, that the country faces? >> i think probably richard lugar would be one that would come to mind. >> he's not going to be there. >> he's not going to be there. >> who else could you name, senator? >> that is a problem. let me do this one -- let me
and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell...
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for president obama he's getting a lot of advice. don't be arrogant, don't respond always to governor romney, don't attack. but i think the most important thing he has to do to win this debate or to come out feeling as though he's done what he needs to do is talk about the progress that has been made, small as it may be, he wants to emphasize there is some progress that's been made and get people to continue asto feel as though there is some progress. >> can a debate really change things? we saw the clip, of course, of gerald ford, that is one case where he came out with a ten-point deficit just that switch from what he had said against jimmy carter and that was the race. >> we can look back at individual debates and say that had an effect on rate for at least a moment. john kerry had a good couple debates -- >> but he still didn't win. >> i think that for governor romney, he needs to have something happen here tonight in which there is at least for the moment a change in perceptions. whether that turns around the whole race, i mean
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president obama, what is his greatest hazard? >> there are times with debates back in the democratic primary he comes off smug and seems condescending and patronizing. he is not a position to do that but it was in the year him. >> the think he will say like senator 2010 to find her likable enough? >> i don't think we will see him repeat that mistake. lou: the romney campaign says they will not bring up the 2007 speech want you think of their choice? >> it is interesting. the two different arguments obama uses we cannot be divisive to make an incendiary comments. but to look at the mainstream media types that say we were there and it makes you wonder about their judgment how did they cover it but not cover some much rhetoric? that is a harsh criticism to make for our like to think if i cover the speech at that time that would not only be in my story but it is significant to say that. >> you question the news judgment i question the ideological judgment. it is lacking and we will go things that happened in the speech but the one el
president obama, what is his greatest hazard? >> there are times with debates back in the democratic primary he comes off smug and seems condescending and patronizing. he is not a position to do that but it was in the year him. >> the think he will say like senator 2010 to find her likable enough? >> i don't think we will see him repeat that mistake. lou: the romney campaign says they will not bring up the 2007 speech want you think of their choice? >> it is interesting....
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because you are for obama or romney. so, i think it is really, you need to not just be on your own. >> i could not agree more. that is why we do these debate watches. there are the young republicans and young democrats. and they have a discussion afterwards. return of the spin doctors. i would be suspicious of what i saw on twitter. based on the reasons you say. the campaigns are hitt to that. >> i think -- the campaigns are hip to that. >> one thing i can say the tendency to do then is you are not really listening at the entire speech, you are listening to those things that interest you or that you think people falling you may be interested in. and that is what gets picked up. you are not are actually listening to the speech in its entirety and picking up the nuances that may be there. >> and i agree with that. someday i would say is that we are not going to change it. the point is, how you think about it? if we think about it as an opportunity to hold our leaders publicly accountable for this, i do not see anything wro
because you are for obama or romney. so, i think it is really, you need to not just be on your own. >> i could not agree more. that is why we do these debate watches. there are the young republicans and young democrats. and they have a discussion afterwards. return of the spin doctors. i would be suspicious of what i saw on twitter. based on the reasons you say. the campaigns are hitt to that. >> i think -- the campaigns are hip to that. >> one thing i can say the tendency to...
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obama works with a stiletto. it is a darker art. >> it is like where bob woodward says the terrible republicans are going to cut medicare and then woodward says barack obama says we have to cut medicare. we look at the 20 whoppers. what is the top obama whopper? >> i think what he says more than anything else that for example that romney was theorig original outsourcer of jobs at bain. that was a powerful message on the campaign trail. >> what about romney? what is romney's? >> he says if things continue we'll no longer have a free market economy. that is kind of hard to believe. >> a bit of an overstatement. >> voters want to believe these things especially on right and left. even when you present the facts to them they don't actually -- >> so tonight we have the back and forth on the facts. let's talk about the debate tonight. what does mitt romney have to do not just to win over the conservatives and get them excited but what conservative message does he have to give to the american people that will get the sw
obama works with a stiletto. it is a darker art. >> it is like where bob woodward says the terrible republicans are going to cut medicare and then woodward says barack obama says we have to cut medicare. we look at the 20 whoppers. what is the top obama whopper? >> i think what he says more than anything else that for example that romney was theorig original outsourcer of jobs at bain. that was a powerful message on the campaign trail. >> what about romney? what is romney's?...
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i think the same for president obama. i think republicans are underestimating how strong obama will be if he is reelected. hold allhink he could the republicans against an obama version of a budget deal. i think that have more leverage over members are around campaign finance issues and other things. i think obama -- even if the democrats don't control all of congress, he would have some leverage to go around leadership. people say bipartisanship, but there are two forms of bipartisanship. one is the leadership negotiant and the other is -- the premise of both of those is, there has to be personal relationships to develop before that can occur. the ambassador pointed out that governor romney will have those talents. i think president obama knows he has them, he will just have to now demonstrate the more. >> so the reality is this, we are a few short weeks away from the real work starting. be a moment ofl real clarity after the election. we will all wake up the next morning and some will be happy and some will be sad. then
i think the same for president obama. i think republicans are underestimating how strong obama will be if he is reelected. hold allhink he could the republicans against an obama version of a budget deal. i think that have more leverage over members are around campaign finance issues and other things. i think obama -- even if the democrats don't control all of congress, he would have some leverage to go around leadership. people say bipartisanship, but there are two forms of bipartisanship. one...
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they get their say back and if you look at now i should nationwide polling it appears of president obama's pulling away from mitt romney even in the all important swing states where conservatives are saying that's hogwash and that the polls are being skewed because this outlandish conspiracy theory actually prove valuable for conservatives come november. you need to know that the banks there's blatant fraud in the run up to the financial crisis as in gone unnoticed by one top lawyer in the nation new york attorney general eric schneiderman who also chairs the president's mortgage fraud task force filed a civil suit against j.p. morgan chase for quote widespread fraud in the sale of mortgage backed securities and this is the first legal action brought against the banks by this task force most of the allegations are actually against field bank backed bank bear stearns which was bought by j.p. morgan chase and just before the economy went into meltdown in two thousand and eight according to a lawsuit banks at bear stearns knowingly sold defective loans and mortgage backed securities. and kept
they get their say back and if you look at now i should nationwide polling it appears of president obama's pulling away from mitt romney even in the all important swing states where conservatives are saying that's hogwash and that the polls are being skewed because this outlandish conspiracy theory actually prove valuable for conservatives come november. you need to know that the banks there's blatant fraud in the run up to the financial crisis as in gone unnoticed by one top lawyer in the...
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this is obama, this is president obama and they're really disappointed. is >>> in 2008, i voted for barack obama. >>> he was new. he had new ideas. >>> i think that now we've given obama a fair chance. and i don't think he's able to do what we need him to do. >>> the president is doing a mediocre job, and the economy in my opinion is still the same as it was four years ago. >>> what's effective about that is that what governor romney has to do is persuade people who voted for president obama that they shouldn't vote for him again. if the attack is strong on his competence or strong on some facet of his leadership, the danger is people hunker down and defend their original vote. this situates the voter where the voter is right now, it says, "we license you to reject the incumbent." it's an ad that says, "let's make this a referendum. >> what about the pro-obama ad? what's the most effective ad they've run that is believable? >> i think the most effective ad that they have is on the air right now. it's capturing a small segment of the statement that governo
this is obama, this is president obama and they're really disappointed. is >>> in 2008, i voted for barack obama. >>> he was new. he had new ideas. >>> i think that now we've given obama a fair chance. and i don't think he's able to do what we need him to do. >>> the president is doing a mediocre job, and the economy in my opinion is still the same as it was four years ago. >>> what's effective about that is that what governor romney has to do is...
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if you elect obama. i happen to believe that star and that's why i'm not for reelection president obama but is not a very inspiring forward-looking spoken about what mid-romney will do. it's hard to blame the guy who wants to get reelected with a pretty narrow cast, casting approach to democratic and independent constituencies to try to scare them about ron is just bush, there is a war on women and all that but i don't go get the kind of frame you would like. i'm a little is pessimistic. i do think reality matters, as we've been saying. we are going to hit the cliff in all kinds of ways. be any fiscal cliff in the real clip in 2013 is you can't sustain these deficits obviously for too long because they can't keep printing money and expect the world to take it or buy treasury notes forever. the economy is slow and they will be coming into another dip. they are foreign policy challenges i think the next president will have a moment between november 7, i agree just to begin november 7, on january 20. and i
if you elect obama. i happen to believe that star and that's why i'm not for reelection president obama but is not a very inspiring forward-looking spoken about what mid-romney will do. it's hard to blame the guy who wants to get reelected with a pretty narrow cast, casting approach to democratic and independent constituencies to try to scare them about ron is just bush, there is a war on women and all that but i don't go get the kind of frame you would like. i'm a little is pessimistic. i do...
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two weeks before obama's speech. adding to that, senator obama voted against the bill that included the provision for new orleans. part of the bill that increased iraq war funding. democrats say it's ancient history five years ago. political analysts expect more tape from both sides on 33 days. positive day on wall street. the dow gained 12. s&p 500 finished ahead five. nasdaq was up 15. the struggling economy is blamed for another year of declining birthrate. cdc says there were fewer than 4 million in 2011 down 1% from the previous year. the lowest number since 1999. hispanic births were down 6%. 2% down for african-americans. followup on last night's story about the obama administration urging defense contractors not to issue legally required layoff notices despite impending cuts due to the budget impasse. known as the sequestration. mike emanuel has the update. >> by law they're required to issue layoff notices to employees they may need to cut if the half trillion in automatic cuts known as sequestration take ef
two weeks before obama's speech. adding to that, senator obama voted against the bill that included the provision for new orleans. part of the bill that increased iraq war funding. democrats say it's ancient history five years ago. political analysts expect more tape from both sides on 33 days. positive day on wall street. the dow gained 12. s&p 500 finished ahead five. nasdaq was up 15. the struggling economy is blamed for another year of declining birthrate. cdc says there were fewer than...
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if you ask any of the obama supporters, they want the old obama. they want the fiery obama. to them, the modern obama is van halen with sammy maggar. they want van halen with roth. when he gets re-elected we'll see the old obama, fiery obama. they should be happy to see this. >> eric: this begs the question forget about the money, the man could stand on the podium and do that, point the finger and say where is your stafford money, knowing very well stafford money is on its way, anyway, where is you yours. what is he going to tell the american people? is he going to say -- forget the last four years knowing very well, the last four years are on his watch. >> dana: this video reminded me of things we've seen before. long way from hope and change. i don't think it will matter. the president of the united states. the questions are as andrea pointed out, 8.1% unemploymen unemployment. government increase increase under his watch. you could name any promise but you can't find one that he fulfilled. it could give some people pause. maybe he did want something else or didn't know wh
if you ask any of the obama supporters, they want the old obama. they want the fiery obama. to them, the modern obama is van halen with sammy maggar. they want van halen with roth. when he gets re-elected we'll see the old obama, fiery obama. they should be happy to see this. >> eric: this begs the question forget about the money, the man could stand on the podium and do that, point the finger and say where is your stafford money, knowing very well stafford money is on its way, anyway,...
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. >> as president obama and mitt romney prepare to debate, we look and how the democrats and republicans signed secret contracts, that among other things, shut out third parties from the presidential debates. then guns on campus. months after a former student opened fire at a movie theater in aurora, colorado, the university of colorado changes the rules to allow some students to carry concealed weapons on campus. >> i highly disagree with the change on campus. even though this is a state-run school, we should not have guns on campus. no guns on campus. >> members of a florida-based coalition take on the food giant to play. the company it being asked to trade foodaia fair agreement. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are on the road in denver, colorado. the obama administration has launched the first ups toward military action against the suspects on the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya last month. special operations command could have been used to capture militants deemed to have been involved in those actions ki
. >> as president obama and mitt romney prepare to debate, we look and how the democrats and republicans signed secret contracts, that among other things, shut out third parties from the presidential debates. then guns on campus. months after a former student opened fire at a movie theater in aurora, colorado, the university of colorado changes the rules to allow some students to carry concealed weapons on campus. >> i highly disagree with the change on campus. even though this is a...
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everyone knows president obama. he served for the last almost four years so this tape isn't going to do anything to change the minds of people who know him already. the problem is nobody knows mitt romney. >> no, they don't. i was in roland university speaking to a bunch of kids there and we were talking about the two debates. i asked them what moment do you remember most from the democratic debate. they all remembered bill clinton's peach. i asked them what moment do you remember most from the republican debate. other than chris christie, they remember clint eastwood talking to the chair. those kids are paying attention. i think the republicans have lost so many opportunities to be able to make their case. i don't know if you're feeling any of that there in new jersey. >> i don't think there's a case to be made. i mean, they can't give any information about their budget. i'm a senior citizen. to be honest with you i'm deathly afraid of them taking over. >> do you trust the paul ryan medicare plan? he said it's only
everyone knows president obama. he served for the last almost four years so this tape isn't going to do anything to change the minds of people who know him already. the problem is nobody knows mitt romney. >> no, they don't. i was in roland university speaking to a bunch of kids there and we were talking about the two debates. i asked them what moment do you remember most from the democratic debate. they all remembered bill clinton's peach. i asked them what moment do you remember most...
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some of them are hedge fund givers, big supporters of obama in 2008, but they have soured on obama and switched teams. some come from industries that have significant government interests, oil, gas, and coal are one of them. futures received money from payday lenders concerned about the consumer financial protection bureau regular lating them and hoping for a romney win to ease some of that. on the democratic side, there just isn't that collection of people right now. now, it doesn't mean that at no point in the future will there be a large amount of very wealthy liberals because they are out there, who pony up money, but the miscycle is uneven. the saving grace of the president is that he is, as he proved in 2008, uniquely able to raise enormous amounts of money in very small amounts in political terms from enormous amounts of people. we're up to 3 million donors for his campaign. just to give an idea how it differs from what romney's been raising, this is -- this is through reports that came out, primary fundraising through the end of august, president obama raised $147 million or 34
some of them are hedge fund givers, big supporters of obama in 2008, but they have soured on obama and switched teams. some come from industries that have significant government interests, oil, gas, and coal are one of them. futures received money from payday lenders concerned about the consumer financial protection bureau regular lating them and hoping for a romney win to ease some of that. on the democratic side, there just isn't that collection of people right now. now, it doesn't mean that...
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president obama was in las vegas. we will show you a portion of that event, and then a portion of mitt romney's rally in denver. here is the president now. >> now, you may have heard that in a few days, my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i am looking forward to it. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. who is going to put the most points on the board. now, no, governor romney, he is a good debater. i'm just ok. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hard- working americans. that is what people are going to be listening for, that is the debate that you deserve. because in the coming weeks, you are going to have a big choice to make, nev., and it is and not just a choice between two candidates or two political parties. it is a choice between two different paths for this country. it is a choice between two and fund
president obama was in las vegas. we will show you a portion of that event, and then a portion of mitt romney's rally in denver. here is the president now. >> now, you may have heard that in a few days, my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i am looking forward to it. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. who is going to put the most points on the board. now, no, governor romney, he is a...
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if obama is reelected, president obama, and democrats hold on to the senate, there is no way you can repeal every syllable obamacare. what then? >> it will be very difficult if that happens. that is why it is important that we defeat barack obama that we defeat barack obama in november and that we retire harry reid in november. one of the biggest differences between my opponent and me would be the very first vote mr. sadler would cast if he were elected, which would be to vote for harry reid to be majority leader. harry reid has been the most irresponsible majority leader we have ever seen. the last three years, under his leadership, the senate has not passed a budget. >> i have to respond to this. i do not know who i would vote for majority leader, but we know who you not vote for, john cornyn. if the republicans gain control of the senate -- you have said twice, on two occasions, you would not guarantee you would support john cornyn. that is because your money comes from jim demint. if you are interested texas, how could do not support our senior senator majority leader in the aban
if obama is reelected, president obama, and democrats hold on to the senate, there is no way you can repeal every syllable obamacare. what then? >> it will be very difficult if that happens. that is why it is important that we defeat barack obama that we defeat barack obama in november and that we retire harry reid in november. one of the biggest differences between my opponent and me would be the very first vote mr. sadler would cast if he were elected, which would be to vote for harry...
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obama. what did she tell you about what it's like for her out there on the campaign trail? >> reporter: you know, i asked her about ann romney's claim when ann romney pressed back about her own husband's critics and ann romney said campaigning is hard. i said does she share that sentiment. here was mrs. obama's response. >> ann romney recently said about the critics of her husband -- to her husband's critics that running for president is hard. do you sympathize with that? >> you know, the campaign experience is unique for everyone. everyone comes to this and experiences it differently. for me i really enjoy campaigning. i think barack and i we both get energy from it because when you live in washington, sometimes you get isolated from the rest of the country. and this is a time when we get out and we can remember just how decent people are. i come across people i don't care what political party they come from, they are hopeful. they're happy to see you. they're willing to listen. and it's go
obama. what did she tell you about what it's like for her out there on the campaign trail? >> reporter: you know, i asked her about ann romney's claim when ann romney pressed back about her own husband's critics and ann romney said campaigning is hard. i said does she share that sentiment. here was mrs. obama's response. >> ann romney recently said about the critics of her husband -- to her husband's critics that running for president is hard. do you sympathize with that? >>...
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host: president obama on sunday. lauren ashburn, what is the media put the job as the candidates make these low- expectation remarks -- what is the job of social media and journalism in communicating that to the american people? guest: you heard him say people will be looking for zingers. that is true. if you around twitter, and you can watch out people like to send those out, and add their own comments. twitter is a form of communication where you can be more snarky than you can be in print or on line. i think the zingers will play a factor inside the beltway. guest: i think it will be a factor in all 50 states. i'm sure there will be a lot of good exchanges, and there will be exchanges of views on medicare, the economy, tax cuts, the deficit, all of that -- what will be replayed on line, on cable television, on the broadcast networks, are a couple of 20-second exchanges. there tend to be these moments of body language. the mitt romney camp, somebody said they would be projecting personal warmth. a lot of this is no
host: president obama on sunday. lauren ashburn, what is the media put the job as the candidates make these low- expectation remarks -- what is the job of social media and journalism in communicating that to the american people? guest: you heard him say people will be looking for zingers. that is true. if you around twitter, and you can watch out people like to send those out, and add their own comments. twitter is a form of communication where you can be more snarky than you can be in print or...
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he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win the argument where you say, all right, i'm rich, i got, you know, i've got an elevator for my cars. i know how to fix this and make it good for the middle class and look like -- maybe you're not as attached to the empathy, or is it better to be the president and say i really care, i just don't know how to do anything. >> neither one of them is good. look, the reason the numbers have gotten so much better for obama in terms of who is the best deal for the economy, whoever thought that would be even at this point. is simply because people think the president cares about them and they don't think that about mitt romney. >> incompetent doesn't help. >> we really have gained 4 million jobs, i grant you from the down -- >> no business experience in his administration, doesn't seem to be private-sector oriented, more interested in governmen
he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win the argument where you say, all right, i'm rich, i got, you know, i've got an elevator for my cars. i know how to fix this and make it good for the middle class and look like -- maybe you're not as attached to the empathy, or is it...
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if romney is the grandfather of obama care and obama the father, then we should get a chance tomorrow to learn just how far the apple actually falls from the tree. here to discuss one of the most intriguing debate topics for tomorrow, healthcare is political correspondent for the atlantic molly ball and dave sirota cohost of the run-down with sirota and brown. molly, let me start with you. it has always struck me as bizarre, almost hypocritical for mitt romney to attack obama care the way he has. he himself mitt romney was in fact the first political voice to say the individual mandate is critical. he got it passed. much to his credit in massachusetts. how can he get away now with it being bad for the nation? >> i'm curious to see what mitt romney says about healthcare in this debate because in the last few weeks we've heard him inching closer to a defense of the mandate and of his own healthcare law which he never actually repudiated but which he sort of backed away from during the republican primary and as you recall, it was a big topic in the republican primary debates being attack
if romney is the grandfather of obama care and obama the father, then we should get a chance tomorrow to learn just how far the apple actually falls from the tree. here to discuss one of the most intriguing debate topics for tomorrow, healthcare is political correspondent for the atlantic molly ball and dave sirota cohost of the run-down with sirota and brown. molly, let me start with you. it has always struck me as bizarre, almost hypocritical for mitt romney to attack obama care the way he...